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    Hi guys and gals,

    Do any of you use action cameras on your helmets or bikes?

    I've been using a TomTom Bandit camera for the last two years (I commute on my bike everywhere), and last week a rock hit the lens. I'm struggling to find a replacement lens for the camera and thought maybe it's time for a new camera. I love this camera and thought of just buying the same one again, but maybe there is something better out there?

    So, any advice on what you use and how it works, or doesn't work for you?

    Thanks in advance!

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    I'm using a Volkano 4k extreme, cost 999 from game, and the video is brilliant.
    2 spare batteries and a desktop charger cost me 180 from banggood.
    Battery lasts about 1.5hrs at 1080p recording

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    I need a camera that can mount to the chin of a helmet and that is capable of blue tooth comms. Any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristoe View Post
    Hi guys and gals,

    Do any of you use action cameras on your helmets or bikes?

    I've been using a TomTom Bandit camera for the last two years (I commute on my bike everywhere), and last week a rock hit the lens. I'm struggling to find a replacement lens for the camera and thought maybe it's time for a new camera. I love this camera and thought of just buying the same one again, but maybe there is something better out there?

    So, any advice on what you use and how it works, or doesn't work for you?

    Thanks in advance!
    Kritoe, what have you done with all that data collected over the last 2 years? I've been contemplating this "dash cam" thing for moons now for car/bike, just not sure what to do with all the data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntjamme View Post
    Kritoe, what have you done with all that data collected over the last 2 years? I've been contemplating this "dash cam" thing for moons now for car/bike, just not sure what to do with all the data.

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    Hi Ntjamme,

    Well, that's one of the features that I quite like about the TomTom, it has software and an App called TomTom Bandit Studio. It's super easy to edit and create short videos even on the go with the App. It also automatically creates markers in your videos for example when you've suddenly accelerated or braked or swerved. Then it has a prominent button on the camera that you can press when you want to put your own bookmark in a video.
    The battery lasts about 3 hours (I carry a spare with me just in case). I'm running a 64gb SD card with the video settings at 1080 x 60fps (4K is over kill for what I use it for) So that means I can record for about 4 hours or so.


    Now, coming to your question, what do I do with all the data?
    Every morning when I come to work I plug the battery (which also houses the SD card) into my PC to charge. the TomTom Bandit Studio launches and if something interesting happened on my trip home the previous day or to work that morning, I make a quick video and it is saved on my PC and then I delete the rest of the footage I don't need/want. This takes less than 5 minutes. So, in the two years of using the camera I've created about 180 short videos that takes up just over 10 GB on my hard drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freerider View Post
    I'm using a Volkano 4k extreme, cost 999 from game, and the video is brilliant.
    2 spare batteries and a desktop charger cost me 180 from banggood.
    Battery lasts about 1.5hrs at 1080p recording

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    Wow! That's cheap! Will have a look at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloufieterjoel View Post
    I need a camera that can mount to the chin of a helmet and that is capable of blue tooth comms. Any advice?
    Yeah, I also wanted to get a camera that can be chin mounted without blocking the chin vent. But I've never heard about one that can be mounted on the chin that has Bluetooth comms. built in... Also, the problem with chin mounted cameras (for me) is that the camera is too far down and gets bumped a lot when the helmet is taken off and put down or handled.

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    I looked into the Go Pro Session. It's one of the nicest on size. A
    lot of moto vloggers use it as a helmet cam.

    The original session seems to have some problems so much so that
    as I was testing one to purchase it died and that was that. The
    latest session I'm sure is better, I couldn't find any here though
    and they're really expensive.

    I picked up an older Go Pro Hero 3 instead. My helmet won't do the
    chin mount thing with the mounts I have and it's all a first for me,
    everything has been a learning curve. I didn't want to buy the wrong
    stuff trying to get it right, there's a lot for all sorts.
    Some of these accessories aren't cheap and they're often in kits
    also.

    If I have a better idea of what to look out for, I'd maybe look at
    something better. For now, I'm still working on the position, it's
    mostly just a style and preference thing once it's working really.

    I'm using a sticky mount on the top and right side (facing out), the
    camera can be mounted on either with a couple of different
    extensions to better position it. The top does seem too high for me,
    I could see very quickly why the chin mount is the way to go. My
    setup goes down from the right and in toward the chin as a trade-off
    on that. It does get in the way handling the helmet, it clips on and
    off easily though.

    I'd like to get the bars/instruments into the footage and also not
    lose too much of the road ahead doing that (like I do with too sharp
    an angle from the top). It's harder than it seems.

    I couldn't find these here either to check it out though:
    Sena Prism

    I didn't think to take a pic of my setup. I'll get one for here,
    maybe someone will have ideas on that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnm1 View Post

    I didn't think to take a pic of my setup. I'll get one for here,
    maybe someone will have ideas on that too.
    That would be awesome. I've had mine on the right side of the helmet, the TomTom is cylindrical so it doesn't stand out too far. But lately I've tried it on the left side as well. All my previous helmets had a drop down sun visor with it's lever on the left hand side so that's why I've always had it on the right hand side. I don't like it on top as well. Would be interesting to see what others use and how they mount it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristoe View Post
    Hi Ntjamme,

    Well, that's one of the features that I quite like about the TomTom, it has software and an App called TomTom Bandit Studio. It's super easy to edit and create short videos even on the go with the App. It also automatically creates markers in your videos for example when you've suddenly accelerated or braked or swerved. Then it has a prominent button on the camera that you can press when you want to put your own bookmark in a video.
    The battery lasts about 3 hours (I carry a spare with me just in case). I'm running a 64gb SD card with the video settings at 1080 x 60fps (4K is over kill for what I use it for) So that means I can record for about 4 hours or so.


    Now, coming to your question, what do I do with all the data?
    Every morning when I come to work I plug the battery (which also houses the SD card) into my PC to charge. the TomTom Bandit Studio launches and if something interesting happened on my trip home the previous day or to work that morning, I make a quick video and it is saved on my PC and then I delete the rest of the footage I don't need/want. This takes less than 5 minutes. So, in the two years of using the camera I've created about 180 short videos that takes up just over 10 GB on my hard drive.
    Awesome feedback.

    I'm surprised by the recording time on the battery. I was expecting a much longer time for some reason - 8-12 hours on medium res.

    I like the fact that you've got 180 short vids. Have you revisited them since downloading them? I know that different people Will do different things with the data, thus trying to understand what people do with the data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntjamme View Post
    Awesome feedback.

    I'm surprised by the recording time on the battery. I was expecting a much longer time for some reason - 8-12 hours on medium res.

    I like the fact that you've got 180 short vids. Have you revisited them since downloading them? I know that different people Will do different things with the data, thus trying to understand what people do with the data.

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    The recording time could be longer, 3 hours is what from TomTom claims. I've never really tried to see how long it will last. I usually check the battery icon on the screen if I've been using the camera for a few days without charging it, like over a weekend, and if the battery is under 25%, I just pop in the spare one. I don't think you'll find an action camera that can record for 5 hours plus on one battery, but who knows maybe there is one out there.

    I have a few favorite videos that I carry around on my phone... like the time I went camping and forgot for a moment I have a street bike and not a GS, and wiped out on a gravel road while riding through a pool of mud. And a few close calls to remind me of what I could have done better in the situation. A few funny ones and so on.

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    Car dash cams are plugged in typically. I guess that's why they're
    cheaper and less of a hassle to manage - keep the footage when you
    need it, overwrite otherwise.

    It's all a compromise, a nice slim camera isn't going to have a huge
    battery. On the go-pro, the battery is about the size of a pencil
    eraser. Without the waterproof housing, the actual camera is ~70
    grams.

    Here's an idea of battery life on this old model.

    I agree with that being a bit low, it's where we're at though with
    all that in mind.

    -You can get multiple batteries.
    -They can be charged with a powerbank/on the go.

    If you're really into film making then multiple cameras work too (the
    session has a built in battery).

    There's also a great app on the GoPro side with preview/capture/
    editing and that kind of thing.

    As mentioned here's my amateur setup and some screenshots to show
    the position. It's a little bland without the bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rnm1 View Post
    As mentioned here's my amateur setup and some screenshots to show
    the position. It's a little bland without the bars.
    That's quite a bracket you've built there! Does it induce wind turbulence or head shake at high speed (140km/h or faster)?

    I remember the first camera I tried was my friend's GoPro a few years back. In the on top of the helmet position that you have here as well. Boy, did that induce head shake at higher speeds! I wonder if it was the boxy shape of the camera or maybe just more so the placement of it. In any case I'm considering the GoPro Hero 4.

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    I've not got that far with it just yet. I'll be sure to let you know.
    Ryan from F9 (YouTube) has is low enough it's almost on his shoulder
    and this is very similar from what I could make of that. I'm sure
    that would help.

    I had a lot of these little brackets already as it came with the
    camera and someone with a few spares helped me with the extra, other
    than that, it's a lot, I would have probably gone with something
    else, anyway, it's all configurable.

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    Excellent info guys, ive been looking for a cam the last few days and im clueless as to what to look for, not sure on placement either, chin, top of pip etc.
    I see TakeAlot has this one which ive been considering:
    https://www.takealot.com/waterproof-...p/PLID49859495
    Thoughts?
    Really not going to spend 1000s for a camera when this does 1080p with great recording degrees does the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by LloydRey View Post
    Excellent info guys, ive been looking for a cam the last few days and im clueless as to what to look for, not sure on placement either, chin, top of pip etc.
    I see TakeAlot has this one which ive been considering:
    https://www.takealot.com/waterproof-...p/PLID49859495
    Thoughts?
    Really not going to spend 1000s for a camera when this does 1080p with great recording degrees does the job
    For that price it's well worth exploring. It probably uses the same mounts as Go-Pros. The only thing I would say is don't expect excellent video quality and stability, although it might still deliver satisfactory results.
    I think it's a great start to figure out if this will work for you. And you can let us know how it performs!?

    Two of my friends bought similar cameras a few years back. One of them loved it and the other hated it, and ended up buying an entry level Go-Pro.

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    There's always a compromise, whether it's bluetooth earphones,
    tablets or whatever it is at those kind of price points. It might be
    perfect for this case, at some point, we do get what we pay for also.

    Just don't let off-brands or imitations ruin your experience with
    that, sometimes they are nothing like the real thing.
    (speaking from experience)

    On those, I suppose overall quality and also more functional things
    like battery longevity before a full charge stops lasting and that
    kind of thing happens also.

    You could replace them a few times over by comparison though, so...

    I think that would be okay if you know what you're in for. You also
    probably won't have any app support or not very good app support if
    anything.

    There are good GoPro alternatives, GoPro are really ubiquitous, but
    not necessarily the best. We can't readily get a lot of those here
    it seems.

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    Also been researching actions cams lately. Looking to record my daily commute and I a lot of trail running, cycling and general sporting activities which id like to record.

    For what is worth PNP hyper has the Volkano extreme 4k for R899. There are a few reviews with video quality samples on youtube and it looks pretty decent for the price, not quite proper 4k quality but seems to be able to record in decent HD 1080p quality which is more than sufficient.

    Id personally stay away from the no name takealot ones as you just don't know the quality of what you getting, saw a review of a cheap 4k like the takelot one and the quality was very poor.

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    So I ended up getting the Volkano extreme 4k at PNP on Friday. Used it for the first time on the bike this morning and it works really well, really decent quality video, used the 1080p @60fps setting. The 4k setting seems to need a faster sd card but the 1080p is more than sufficient quality. Doing the pirates hat race/beer run (road running race) this Sunday in greenside and going to try out the 720p @ 120fps and see how that comes out.

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