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    Hi Guys.

    I need some clarity regarding buying my first bike.

    There seem to be 2 opinions on buying a 1st bike.

    1st. People have told me that i should get a 250 as starter bike.
    others have said get a 400.
    and 1 or 2 have said 600 should be fine.

    I have rode bikes before, but that was when i was 13 and never again after that.

    Soooooo. Please break it down for me.

    Thanks in advance tho.

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    Welcome!
    Well it would help if you give us a rough idea of budget, what you want to use it for etc.

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    Hi Fredz1, welcome.

    So how long is a piece of string?

    Before I can give you some pointers, lets ask some questions first.
    - Why do you want a bike? Leisure, touring or commuting?
    - How old are you and approx. size (length and weight)
    - How much are you planning to spend? Does that include for your helmet and kit or did you allow a separate budget for that?
    - Do you like more of a sportbike look, adventure bike or cruisers?

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    What TP said..... with one addition. AVOID the 400 "sport bikes". They were grey imports and spares are very difficult to find.
    Dunslop lover....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp007 View Post
    Hi Fredz1, welcome. Thank you

    So how long is a piece of string? Its so long...

    Before I can give you some pointers, lets ask some questions first.
    - Why do you want a bike? Leisure, touring or commuting? Mostly for leasure. Its pointless me driving a car alone.The bike will mostly be for fun and also the commute to work thats about 15km.
    - How old are you and approx. size (length and weight) Im 31technically. But I feel much younger. I weigh like 78kgs. if not more. im 166cm tall.
    - How much are you planning to spend? Does that include for your helmet and kit or did you allow a separate budget for that? Budget is R30k (without accessories) need to finance it tho but mainly to get a credit profile.
    - Do you like more of a sportbike look, adventure bike or cruisers?
    Its between sportbike and adventure but that depends on my mood. Im leaning towards sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave31 View Post
    What TP said..... with one addition. AVOID the 400 "sport bikes". They were grey imports and spares are very difficult to find.
    I heard that aswell. but it seems to be a good balance of power and control.

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    For 30k you can buy a reliable small bike, or an old, unreliable bigger bike.

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    Read these 2 posts by a very knowledgable member Banditman
    http://forum.thinkbike.co.za/showthr...2nd-Hand-Bikes

    http://forum.thinkbike.co.za/showthr...first-Big-Bike

    That should help a lot. Tons of useful info there!

    Generally stay away from old sports 400s. Stay away from Chinese.

    To fit your requirements (15km trek and want to travel with a pillion)
    A BMW F650gs or something along those lines could work as it might be in your budget.
    Life on 2 wheels is so much better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredz1 View Post
    Its between sportbike and adventure but that depends on my mood. Im leaning towards sports.
    If you were an 18 year old, I would not recomend anything above 250cc, but because you are past your thirty, I would assume you are more responsible, therefore I would suggest a 650'sh bike.
    Just remember that a 600 sportbike is not the same as a 650 adventure bike.
    For me, an adventure bike will be more comfortable than a sport bike for commuting due to the upright riding position, with better visibility, but both will do the job.
    Just keep in mind that, unless you get kit donated, you have to budget for say R10 000 for kit (Helmet R3500, Jacket R1500, Pants R1500, Boots R1500, Gloves R1000, Training R1000). Get good training and don't do what I did and think "I will learn as I go along".

    Quote Originally Posted by FJTillDeath View Post
    Read these 2 posts by a very knowledgable member Banditman
    http://forum.thinkbike.co.za/showthr...2nd-Hand-Bikes

    http://forum.thinkbike.co.za/showthr...first-Big-Bike

    That should help a lot. Tons of useful info there!

    Generally stay away from old sports 400s. Stay away from Chinese.

    To fit your requirements (15km trek and want to travel with a pillion)
    A BMW F650gs or something along those lines could work as it might be in your budget.
    Agree. You can also look at the Kawa Versys or Suzuki Vstrom or Transalp. Can't really comment on Sportbikes, but a lot of guys speak highly of their Fazers, ER6's or CB600, although these bikes may get you into trouble as a newbie.
    If your budget stretch to R50k, also consider the NC 700x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tp007 View Post
    Get good training and don't do what I did and think "I will learn as I go along".
    This. If you learn as you go along, it can be very painful - and expensive - you may not even be so lucky to get the chance to learn from a mistake
    Life on 2 wheels is so much better

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    A good starter bike for someone with some experience and a LOT of self-discipline is a 600 class, non-sport bike. There are many available on the market, although R30k may be a tad low. Avoid any of the older 400cc bikes.



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    Yeah! Try to get one with an operational radiator and fan!

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    TWISTER, BUY CASH. WHY FINANCE A LEISURE ITEM? We like easy access to cash, thus I'd say save up what you'd be paying for a R30k on finance over a year (remember you'd also have to take fully comprehensive insurance if you financed the bike!), and 12 months later you will have ALL THE CASH �� you need to finance the bike plus gear.

    A 15km commute could save a good R600-1000 per month riding, so you could even factor that into your sums long-term.
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    You could always sell the Twister a year later for a 600+, Twister will hold good value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMZ View Post
    A good starter bike for someone with some experience and a LOT of self-discipline is a 600 class, non-sport bike. There are many available on the market, although R30k may be a tad low. Avoid any of the older 400cc bikes.

    Yeah! Try to get one with an operational radiator and fan!
    The fan works now, so I can't complain anymore

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    Good day, just to say, my bike is up for grabs @ R35k

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    I am 36, 6'2 and 150 kg,

    Started with a 250 new out of the box after training.

    Glad in a way that I started small, but now a year and a bit later the 250 is too small and I am looking to upgrade.

    I think SQ does training on a variety of bikes so maybe look at them.

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    Thaks for all the replies.

    So im going to go with the 650 Versys. Yes, its a leasure item and I dont have any debt at all. So it would need to have it financed(not a personal loan). Insurance isnt a problem and gear will be bought cash.

    Step dad going be my training since the old man has been biking since childhood and he has the experience of well everything being a distance biker himself.

    Im not rushing into a purchase but i want a bike that will keep for a decent 3years.

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    Fredz1 best of luck finding what you want.

    Step dad as a trainer

    Big fail, just my opinion. Pay for some lessons at a recognised school.
    Spent my therapy money on a K1200S
    Therapy must have worked, bought a GS
    Insanity crept back in, in the shape of an R1200R

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